Comments on: What do you do with your hands if you are stopped by the Police!

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Sun, 16 May 2010 20:37:08 +0000

Thanks for your insight Yogin. The officer was convicted. Hell I am glad it was not me. It could have been any one of us.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Wed, 12 May 2010 05:53:35 +0000

Good to hear from you Ed! Yes I know what you mean, that is why I suggest keeping your hands on the handlebars. The whole thing sucks no matter how much you look at it.

Norm

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Wow that sucks, but if I was the cop I might have shot. The biker's right hand was exactly where I wear a concealed .45 is the thing. So dig it from the cop's angle: bikes take off fast, one stops, biker has a hand where a concealed pistol could easily be.

If you carry a pistol, as I do, then in addition to keeping your hands in plain sight you should also let the cop know you're armed and ask him/her how they want to proceed. Literally say "officer I got a cocked and locked 1911 45 on my right hip so let me know what you want me to do for your safety". The cop has to know the scene is safe. I already know it, so I want to help the cop get where I am. Plus here in AZ a good firearm might help a dude the way a good rack might help a chick ;)

Anyway yeah I think if the biker had both hands clearly visible - like on the handlebars - then the cop most probably would not have taken the shot.

Damn that sucks.

By: Sandie {Member}

Sandie {Member} — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

What an awful thing to happen to someone. I think a lot of this has to do with the times we now live in!! Police Officers feel threatened. You are correct in your advise to keep your hands at all times where the policeman can see them. My Father was a Kentucky State Police for over 30 years. Dad told me this advise back when I was 16 and got my drivers license. Your points should be taught in Driver’s Education Classes across our great country….it could save somebodies life!!

By: ManBearPig

ManBearPig — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Paralyzed biker testified they didn’t even know a cop was behind them until they heard a siren. They were not “running” from the cop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33TBaNgwSUw

Any biker knows you can’t hear anything but wind and exhaust, but cops love to sneak up behind without the mandatory siren, then testilie the “suspects ran” and required a “high speed chase” (race).

My last ticket the fed cop never used a siren to “chase” me at 45 mph, and I drove for 30 seconds before I saw him in my mirror. I testified I never run since “police state deat hsquads like to kill bikers”. Magistrate and prosecutor went nuts when I said that. Pro se case now going to 6th Circuit appeals.

By: Yogin

Yogin — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Bullshit! I am not just a biker, but a retired cop as well. I can see plainly even in the grainy video that no weapon is in hand and the arm is not coming up as if to fire. Period. The officer clearly drew his weapon and had his finger on the trigger before he determined that firing was even needed. It’s called sympathetic response. He pulled the trigger by accident because of the tension of the moment. This is why you are taught not to put that finger in the trigger until the decision is absolute.