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		By: Jeffrey Petrykowski aka- Lone Apache		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Petrykowski aka- Lone Apache]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 05:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought we just lived in a STATE of confusion here in the people&#039;s republic of Californicate!  The motorcycle hating pubic(small minority) &#038; fat ass politicians- hey who doesn&#039;t try to get your attention so - the citizens &#038; people in cages can give you a thumbs up or hey man righteous scoot!! Sounds beautiful!! Most law enforcement cops are pretty cool- at least the ones I&#039;ve dealt with, mostly non pull overs... They dig the same shit we do!!  Just remember the GOLDEN RULE . If any of you are ever in San Diego- east county and are stopped by CHP OFFICER ENSIGN on your scooter believe me he had a good reason- he cut me a REAL SOLID! Probably I could have went to JAIL for more than a couple of things. As being a bro &#038; his buddies being fellow bikers just asked me to put my whips in my bags! Big Man with a BIG HEART for BROTHER BIKERS!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought we just lived in a STATE of confusion here in the people&#8217;s republic of Californicate!  The motorcycle hating pubic(small minority) &amp; fat ass politicians- hey who doesn&#8217;t try to get your attention so &#8211; the citizens &amp; people in cages can give you a thumbs up or hey man righteous scoot!! Sounds beautiful!! Most law enforcement cops are pretty cool- at least the ones I&#8217;ve dealt with, mostly non pull overs&#8230; They dig the same shit we do!!  Just remember the GOLDEN RULE . If any of you are ever in San Diego- east county and are stopped by CHP OFFICER ENSIGN on your scooter believe me he had a good reason- he cut me a REAL SOLID! Probably I could have went to JAIL for more than a couple of things. As being a bro &amp; his buddies being fellow bikers just asked me to put my whips in my bags! Big Man with a BIG HEART for BROTHER BIKERS!!</p>
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		By: Chistopher Foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So might it be construed same as the bayonet lug on the banned AK47..in that it is an issue of a fixed versus quick release device.....lemme elaborate.
The Get Back whip is designed as a telltale, to remain constantly streaming back while underway at highway speeds, but will whip you to get your attention if side-drafted...by a semi or a car passing too closely.  In that purpose, it is a legitimate device.
When getting angry at someone and removing it via a Quick Disconnect mounting device and using it to beat someone senseless, you are using a regulated or illegal weapon, regardless of whether or not it is classified as a Lethal Weapon...it is still construed as Assault with a deadly or restricted weapon, even in self defense. (whereas, for instance, a licensed pistol owner, seeking to defend himself in similar circumstances, would be lawfully using a firearm in self defense.).

Thus, I identify that the quick disconnect mounting hardware of the Get Back whip is the issue.  If it were permanently fastened to the handelbar and used as a telltale indicator for riding conditions, then it is a lawful device and attached hardware to your motorcycle.  

It is the design of the quick disconnect for quick deployment of a restricted weapon that makes it illegal.  

If you removed the quick disconnect and hard fastened it to your motorcycle, I think you would have a better defense against ticketing, or prosecution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So might it be construed same as the bayonet lug on the banned AK47..in that it is an issue of a fixed versus quick release device&#8230;..lemme elaborate.<br />
The Get Back whip is designed as a telltale, to remain constantly streaming back while underway at highway speeds, but will whip you to get your attention if side-drafted&#8230;by a semi or a car passing too closely.  In that purpose, it is a legitimate device.<br />
When getting angry at someone and removing it via a Quick Disconnect mounting device and using it to beat someone senseless, you are using a regulated or illegal weapon, regardless of whether or not it is classified as a Lethal Weapon&#8230;it is still construed as Assault with a deadly or restricted weapon, even in self defense. (whereas, for instance, a licensed pistol owner, seeking to defend himself in similar circumstances, would be lawfully using a firearm in self defense.).</p>
<p>Thus, I identify that the quick disconnect mounting hardware of the Get Back whip is the issue.  If it were permanently fastened to the handelbar and used as a telltale indicator for riding conditions, then it is a lawful device and attached hardware to your motorcycle.  </p>
<p>It is the design of the quick disconnect for quick deployment of a restricted weapon that makes it illegal.  </p>
<p>If you removed the quick disconnect and hard fastened it to your motorcycle, I think you would have a better defense against ticketing, or prosecution.</p>
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		By: American Iron		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-169485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American Iron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1827&quot;&gt;gixxer32404&lt;/a&gt;.

GIXXER32404: I think the Whips on ricer bikes are a lot smaller and have no girth. Just kidding bro]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1827">gixxer32404</a>.</p>
<p>GIXXER32404: I think the Whips on ricer bikes are a lot smaller and have no girth. Just kidding bro</p>
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		By: DiStUrBeD		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-159776</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So in reality a belt is an illegal weapon and should not be worn in California? ???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in reality a belt is an illegal weapon and should not be worn in California? ???</p>
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		By: Biker Lever Whips - Page 2 - Honda Fury Forums: Honda Chopper Forum		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-158018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biker Lever Whips - Page 2 - Honda Fury Forums: Honda Chopper Forum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] wind). What are the Danger&#039;s? What are Local LAW&#039;s? I only ask after reading these below....TAZ   The Getback Whip Issue Revisited. - Biker and Motorcycle Accident Lawyer Blog  https://www.google.com/search?q=moto...w=1030&#038;bih=627  The Purpose of the &#034;Get-Back [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] wind). What are the Danger&#039;s? What are Local LAW&#039;s? I only ask after reading these below&#8230;.TAZ   The Getback Whip Issue Revisited. &#8211; Biker and Motorcycle Accident Lawyer Blog  <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=moto" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/search?q=moto</a>&#8230;w=1030&amp;bih=627  The Purpose of the &quot;Get-Back [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Michelle Cruz		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-114222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Cruz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband was arrested just today April 4,2014 for having is whip on his bike. We are from Texas and do not know the CA laws but I&#039;m on Google checking the laws and I see no laws against these whips,  I was just wondering an outcome of the case in the story and what I and my husband should expect. I am in Texas right now and hes sitting in a Van Nuys jail cell because of this?!?! Thank you any info is appreciated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband was arrested just today April 4,2014 for having is whip on his bike. We are from Texas and do not know the CA laws but I&#8217;m on Google checking the laws and I see no laws against these whips,  I was just wondering an outcome of the case in the story and what I and my husband should expect. I am in Texas right now and hes sitting in a Van Nuys jail cell because of this?!?! Thank you any info is appreciated.</p>
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		By: tim		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-22519</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1667&quot;&gt;Norman Gregory Fernandez&lt;/a&gt;.

i know this is two years old, but i have to chime in. its not about needing the hassle its about not getting pushed around by the local government. sure its starts with get back whips but what next 8 oclock curfews no motorcycles above 500cc, no guns. NO, BULLSHIT, IT HAS TO STOP. one of our founding fathers stated that &quot;it is not the citizens right to fight for what he believs, it is his responsibility to stand up and fight.&quot; I&#039;m a good guy with no intention of using a get back whip as a weapon, why am I being punished????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1667">Norman Gregory Fernandez</a>.</p>
<p>i know this is two years old, but i have to chime in. its not about needing the hassle its about not getting pushed around by the local government. sure its starts with get back whips but what next 8 oclock curfews no motorcycles above 500cc, no guns. NO, BULLSHIT, IT HAS TO STOP. one of our founding fathers stated that &#8220;it is not the citizens right to fight for what he believs, it is his responsibility to stand up and fight.&#8221; I&#8217;m a good guy with no intention of using a get back whip as a weapon, why am I being punished????</p>
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		By: Cactus Leather		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-12696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cactus Leather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-2596&quot;&gt;Cheryl&lt;/a&gt;.

I have been making getback whips since &#039;03.  I can also put a snap on the attachment.  Let me know if you are still looking for one.  I have about 30 colors and 60 if you reverse the leather with rough side out.  Thanks, Cactus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-2596">Cheryl</a>.</p>
<p>I have been making getback whips since &#8217;03.  I can also put a snap on the attachment.  Let me know if you are still looking for one.  I have about 30 colors and 60 if you reverse the leather with rough side out.  Thanks, Cactus</p>
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		By: Kevin Jacobs		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-3272</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Jacobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1776&quot;&gt;chuck larson&lt;/a&gt;.

What was the outcome????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1776">chuck larson</a>.</p>
<p>What was the outcome????</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-3269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-3268&quot;&gt;Tina Vasques&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Tina, I know of a jury verdict not guilty verdict, I know of guilty verdicts, and I know of plea agreements.

The not guilty was in Van Nuys Superior Court. I can tell you more if you want to give me a call.

Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-3268">Tina Vasques</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Tina, I know of a jury verdict not guilty verdict, I know of guilty verdicts, and I know of plea agreements.</p>
<p>The not guilty was in Van Nuys Superior Court. I can tell you more if you want to give me a call.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Tina Vasques		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Vasques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1714&quot;&gt;Norman Gregory Fernandez&lt;/a&gt;.

Working on defending a case right now.  Do you know of any decisions?

Thanks!  This is making me nuts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/#comment-1714">Norman Gregory Fernandez</a>.</p>
<p>Working on defending a case right now.  Do you know of any decisions?</p>
<p>Thanks!  This is making me nuts!</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave Arnold&#039;s email address is killroyy2@yahoo.com .&lt;br /&gt;
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Good Luck,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Arnold&#8217;s email address is <a href="mailto:killroyy2@yahoo.com">killroyy2@yahoo.com</a> .</p>
<p>Good Luck,</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dave. I know of a case where a jury found that it was not an illegal weapon, and one where they found it was. &lt;br /&gt;
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Take the metal fastener off of the thing and it probably could not be called a slungshot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave. I know of a case where a jury found that it was not an illegal weapon, and one where they found it was. </p>
<p>Take the metal fastener off of the thing and it probably could not be called a slungshot.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am telling you Skip. I know several felony prosecutions that are going on right now. One ended in a hung jury in Van Nuys, CA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody who is riding with these things on right now is taking a chance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am telling you Skip. I know several felony prosecutions that are going on right now. One ended in a hung jury in Van Nuys, CA.</p>
<p>Anybody who is riding with these things on right now is taking a chance.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get a mini-beast air horn like I have!&lt;br /&gt;
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With respect to the getback whips, I know people are being prosecuted for them right now!&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a mini-beast air horn like I have!</p>
<p>With respect to the getback whips, I know people are being prosecuted for them right now!</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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