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		By: Chris Coleman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Coleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-california-highway-patrol-gets-ready-to-roust-bikers-as-angeles-crest-highway-re-opens-today/#comment-29972&quot;&gt;Casey&lt;/a&gt;.

Casey, my point is enforcement on the Crest tends to target a particular group of motorists, primarily motorcyclists.  LEO&#039;s are frequently observed issuing tickets for minor vehicle infractions if they cannot observe the motorcyclist committing a moving violation.  It&#039;s not that mirrors and turn signals aren&#039;t important.  It&#039;s just that a rider can go the entire year and not be pulled over for a turn signal which doesn&#039;t meet DOT standards, but will be pulled over on the Crest for this.  If enforcement is purported to be equal across L.A. County, then this disparity would seem to be indicative of selective harassment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-california-highway-patrol-gets-ready-to-roust-bikers-as-angeles-crest-highway-re-opens-today/#comment-29972">Casey</a>.</p>
<p>Casey, my point is enforcement on the Crest tends to target a particular group of motorists, primarily motorcyclists.  LEO&#8217;s are frequently observed issuing tickets for minor vehicle infractions if they cannot observe the motorcyclist committing a moving violation.  It&#8217;s not that mirrors and turn signals aren&#8217;t important.  It&#8217;s just that a rider can go the entire year and not be pulled over for a turn signal which doesn&#8217;t meet DOT standards, but will be pulled over on the Crest for this.  If enforcement is purported to be equal across L.A. County, then this disparity would seem to be indicative of selective harassment.</p>
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		By: Casey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First off I will say I am an LEO but i will not issue a bias judgement here. To say that you have never heard of an accident because of a missing mirror or turn signal doesn&#039;t mean it hasn&#039;t happened. A motorcycle just like any other motor vehicle is required this equipment for a reason. I cannot see the logic in thinking that not having a mirror to see what is approaching you from behind would not seem important. I see enough motorcycles not use turn signals at all let alone not having them work or on the bike. Let&#039;s not forget the CHP is enforcing the traffic laws on all motorists on this route. Now since i do not live on California I cannto speak from personal experience of the route or CHP. I can however speak to the fact that stepped up enforcement is not a bad thing and in general their presence is usually a deterent, rather then indiscriminate ticketing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off I will say I am an LEO but i will not issue a bias judgement here. To say that you have never heard of an accident because of a missing mirror or turn signal doesn&#8217;t mean it hasn&#8217;t happened. A motorcycle just like any other motor vehicle is required this equipment for a reason. I cannot see the logic in thinking that not having a mirror to see what is approaching you from behind would not seem important. I see enough motorcycles not use turn signals at all let alone not having them work or on the bike. Let&#8217;s not forget the CHP is enforcing the traffic laws on all motorists on this route. Now since i do not live on California I cannto speak from personal experience of the route or CHP. I can however speak to the fact that stepped up enforcement is not a bad thing and in general their presence is usually a deterent, rather then indiscriminate ticketing.</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/the-california-highway-patrol-gets-ready-to-roust-bikers-as-angeles-crest-highway-re-opens-today/#comment-16997&quot;&gt;Chris Coleman&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris, the Angeles Crest and Newcomb&#039;s Ranch, and the ride from Newcomb&#039;s ranch all the way down to the Mohave Desert, is one of the best SoCal rides there is. I will be doing the run this upcoming weekend. I kind of feel robbed that it has been closed several times in the last decade for years at a time.

I think the cops mostly go after the sport bike riders, but it still sucks.

Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/the-california-highway-patrol-gets-ready-to-roust-bikers-as-angeles-crest-highway-re-opens-today/#comment-16997">Chris Coleman</a>.</p>
<p>Chris, the Angeles Crest and Newcomb&#8217;s Ranch, and the ride from Newcomb&#8217;s ranch all the way down to the Mohave Desert, is one of the best SoCal rides there is. I will be doing the run this upcoming weekend. I kind of feel robbed that it has been closed several times in the last decade for years at a time.</p>
<p>I think the cops mostly go after the sport bike riders, but it still sucks.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Chris Coleman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Coleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Crest is frequently canvassed by LEO&#039;s, which is why I usually avoid it. The good news is there are lots of other cool riding spots around SoCal...

The real losers from this are the businesses which cater to bikers in that area, like Newcomb&#039;s. When you drive their customers away, they lose revenue and L.A. County loses tax dollars.

Sometimes law enforcement admin such as Hsu are incredibly ignorant &#038; shortsighted.

If they really want to prevent accidents, indiscriminately ticketing riders for turn signals, mirrors and mufflers is the wrong approach. I&#039;ve never heard of a motorcycle fatality caused by a loud muffler, missing mirror or an aftermarket turn signal.  All that does is target one type of vehicle over another and is tantamount to harassment in order to discourage riders from using the highway altogether.

Simply ticket the racers and speeders - fatality problem solved...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Crest is frequently canvassed by LEO&#8217;s, which is why I usually avoid it. The good news is there are lots of other cool riding spots around SoCal&#8230;</p>
<p>The real losers from this are the businesses which cater to bikers in that area, like Newcomb&#8217;s. When you drive their customers away, they lose revenue and L.A. County loses tax dollars.</p>
<p>Sometimes law enforcement admin such as Hsu are incredibly ignorant &amp; shortsighted.</p>
<p>If they really want to prevent accidents, indiscriminately ticketing riders for turn signals, mirrors and mufflers is the wrong approach. I&#8217;ve never heard of a motorcycle fatality caused by a loud muffler, missing mirror or an aftermarket turn signal.  All that does is target one type of vehicle over another and is tantamount to harassment in order to discourage riders from using the highway altogether.</p>
<p>Simply ticket the racers and speeders &#8211; fatality problem solved&#8230;</p>
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