Comments on: NEWS FLASH: The City of Denver, Colorado, becomes the first Major U.S. City to basically Outlaw After Market Pipes on Motorcycles! https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/ Biker and Motorcycle Accident Lawyer, Top Biker Lawyer, Biker Attorney, Motorcycle Accident Lawyer, Motorcycle Accident Attorney, Legal Issues, Safety Tips, Videos, Links to Motorcycle and legal sites, Motorcycle Ride Reports and General Personal Injury! For a Free Consultation on Your Motorcycle Accident Case, Call 800-816-1529 x. 1 Sun, 04 May 2025 01:37:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-1205 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:18:32 +0000 #comment-1205 Mike H., it is OK to call me Norm. To answer your questions;

(1) Yes that is a picture of me at the top of the page;
(2) No I don’t dress like that in Court. Men are required to wear a suit and tie in California; and
(3) I could not represent you in Colorado unless I did a special motion and it was approved. I am a California lawyer and absent a special motion, can only do cases in California and U.S. Federal Court.

Thanks for your comments,

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-1172 Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:50:06 +0000 #comment-1172 Since you mentioned me directly, I will respond to you by saying that all bikers and motorcyclist should boycott Denver until they stop their discriminatory harassment of bikers.

Be pissed; you do not need our money!

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-1023 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:17:50 +0000 #comment-1023 Everyone who knows me knows that I allow free speech on the Biker Law Blog so long as there is no bashing.

Casca you went too far in bashing bikers so your post was edited out by me. Rather than engaging in intelligent debate on the subject, you choose instead to do an all out bash against bikers.

I am not going to allow that kind of crap on my blog!

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-988 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:14:55 +0000 #comment-988 Joe you probably already know the answer to your question! Do a Google search on the Denver noise ordinance issue. Basically it is a hit or miss proposition!

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-780 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:37:40 +0000 #comment-780 5 ideas to start with; (1) Organized boycott of any city that discriminates against bikers. The boycott must be publicized and quantified so that business people know how much money they are losing by bikers not spending money in their city. This also includes organized protest at city hall and state capitals; (2) Vote any person out of office that enacts or supports this type of discrimination; (3) Lobby at the State level for legislation that is biker friendly, and that circumvents local ordinances from usurping State law; (4) Vote persons out of State office that do not support said legislation; and (5) Self moderation. Bikers must put pressure on each other not to run open pipes and to moderate our noise to reasonable levels. In other words peer pressure.

Another option would be to challenge laws that are discriminatory using the legal system.

I would like to hear other ideas.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-650 Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:23:49 +0000 #comment-650 I feel the same way C.E.!

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-611 Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:34:39 +0000 #comment-611 A DUI checkpoint, and randomly stopping motorcyclist to inspect their motorcycles is a whole different matter.

A motorcycle is not a OTR truck.

I do not have any faith that this law will be enforced the way you say. I believe that it will be abused. Look at the comment above about EPA compliant motorcycles that do not have EPA stamps on the pipes.

Luckily for me, I do not live in Denver. I am a law abiding citizen. I object to the possibility of being pulled over by law enforcement for no reason whatsoever other than the fact that an officer may think by bike is loud, or for a pipe inspection, when I am out riding. The law is overly broad.

In the end, I will get the reports from Denver and pass them on to all of you.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-599 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:58:58 +0000 #comment-599 If that is true Ken then why do you talk about the motorcycle community in the third person, i.e.,

“If you all won’t police yourselves with common sense, I applaud Denver and hopefully soon to be many more cities for doing it for you.”

You exclude yourself from the motorcycle community with you own statement.

If you do ride a motorcycle, you do not mind being stopped willy nilly for a motorcycle inspection for EPA stickers at the whim of law enforcement? If you say no, I won’t believe you.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-597 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:41:27 +0000 #comment-597 Ken I doubt you are a biker or a motorcyclist. However, no opinions are suppressed on my Blog.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-595 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:04:49 +0000 #comment-595 Heck Fat Bob, if something big were organized I would ride out if I could, or fly in depending upon how much notice I get.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-583 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:39:14 +0000 #comment-583 Frosty you need to send these people an email telling them what you posted here. Better yet, why not get a 1000 bikers to show up at the next council meeting. It is not too late to get this thing stopped! I only wish I was there to help you.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-581 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:19:38 +0000 #comment-581 Well Jeremiah I feel for you man. I love riding in that area too. The only way to get the law repealed is to hit them where it hurts, vote them out, public rallies and protest, and a boycott.

You are basically screwed as of July 1, 2007. You better get yourself a set of stockers to put on in case you are stopped!

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-577 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:25:55 +0000 #comment-577 There were already noise laws on the books for this exact issue. What this new law really does is give the Police an excuse to pull over any biker and motorcyclist that they want and harass them.

Let me tell you something, on the road big rig trucks are deafening. Trains are outrageously loud too. Federal Law requires trains to blast their horns at every intersection so that cars or cagers will know that they are coming.

Motorcycle horns for the most part are useless at getting a car or cagers attention. Heck, I have seen people in cars not hear emergency sirens on police and fire trucks and blast through intersections.

Now imagine being on a motorcycle dealing with the same thing?

I am making no predictions on this one. Denver has gone way too far.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-575 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:42:57 +0000 #comment-575 Matt the issue here is one of discrimination and not noise. If noise were the issue, Denver would have made this law applicable to all motor vehicles. Instead they are only targeting Motorcycles.

They already had noise laws on the books for all vehicles. This particular ordinance only targets motorcycles. I have a problem with that.

I am sure you are kidding about wanting to use deadly force or the “Right to Bear Arms” to solve a noise problem, and to make your point, or at least I hope so.

Norm

]]> By: Norman Gregory Fernandez https://bikerlawblog.com/news-flash-the-city-of-denver-colorado-b/#comment-569 Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:01:16 +0000 #comment-569 Thanks for spreading the word Mike. My blog has been getting so many hits after I posted this article that it went down for a while.

Of course they can fine anyone riding in the city for a violation of the ordinance. This is nothing but another way for big brother to add revenue to the city coffers by discriminating against bikers and motorcyclist!

I hope that someone organizes a protest and that 1000’s of bikers show up at city hall.

I also hope that they receive tens of thousands of emails from people supporting the boycott that I have called for.

Norm

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