The reason why we have people dying at county hospitals right now is because they do not have health insurance. We are all getting screwed paying taxes for the people at County right now, so what is the difference.

When you are the guy who is sick, and stuck with no health care insurance, you sure the hell will not care how the health care is obtained; only that you got it.

Norm

With respect to insurance companies, they are not going away, but with a public option, I don’t think they would get away with 40% rate increases per year. They would be forced to keep their prices and profits at a decent level.

The way it is right now, we have the fox guarding the hen house. Really, I would like someone to explain to me why maintaining status quo is in anybody’s best interest?

Who out there is never going to lose their job or insurance? Who out there will never have a major illness? Who out there will not be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions? Who out there does not give a crap if an insurance company raises your rates 30-40% every year. Who out there does not mind a for profit company determining if they will cover your health condition or not? Who out there trust there for profit insurance company to not terminate your coverage if you get real sick?

If anybody out there can say never to any of the above, then my god, health care reform will not help you.

Sandie, I strongly suggest that you check out other new sources other than FOX 🙂

Love Ya Doll,

Norm

I am sure in the future there will be many more changes, add-ons, etc. I am hoping for a public option. In my opinion that will be the only way to really smack the insurance companies in the ass and make them lower their rates to where they should be. Right now they are making tens of billions in profits per year while screwing millions. I am not against someone making a profit, but their profits are disproportionate high every year. It is killing our nation, literally. Who knows how many Americans die each year for lack of health care insurance, it is estimated to be 40,000. (58,000 died in Vietnam in over 10 years).

Norm

Norm

The Feds can even force men to be conscripted into the military against their will if they want, it is called the draft. We do not have it now, but it can happen again.

All of the above has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

I cannot speak to VA or MA. I do know this, medical costs are off the scale with or without health care reform. Hell Anthem/Blue Cross announced 39% premium increases in California THIS YEAR!

Why would folks be mad about being granted the right to have health care? I don’t get it. I would not care what political party I was in, if someone just gave me the right to have health insurance no matter what, I would kiss them, not spurn them. I see the Tea Partiers protesting against being given a fundamental right, it blows my mind. What would these people do if they got laid off and got sick? It really blows my mind.

To be frank, I cannot see any American voting to take away a fundamental right to health care that they were just given. I certainly would not vote for someone that would give my new rights away back to for profit insurance company hacks who could cut off my health care on a whim.

Think about it; take away the political blinders for a minute and consider your family situation. Would you trust a company like Blue Cross, over a law that gives you a legal right to get health care? Hell, Blue Cross would not pay for my dad’s nursing home just a few months ago while he was in there. I had to go to an insurance bad faith attorney and make threats. It turned out that we did not have the right to sue for failure to provide coverage because my dad was in a group plan. This shit is real!

The way I see it, one political party supports big business and big insurance, otherwise they would have fixed this mess when they were in power.

Hell if we can fund two wars and fund the rebuilding of Iraq, I am quite certain that we can fund health care reform.

This is not about Obama, it is about we the people as Americans. If we repeal the law, we go back 100 years. You see, every American President since Teddy Roosevelt has tried to get health care reform. Well we got it!

Norm

Reconciliation is used when both the House and Senate in the congress pass a bill, a reconciliation bill can be done to modify the original bill by a simple majority with no filibuster allowed.

The Republicans used this same process 72 times when they were in power to bypass the Democrats filibuster when they were the majority. Now they act as though they never heard about it.

I wish that news programs and politicians were required by law to tell the truth to the American people, but that is not the case. I have heard some of the disinformation and propaganda from politicians and the news media, and it is alarming.

I do not know if the Dems will lose control or not. I only know that our country almost went under during Bush. I don’t know if those same people that were in control for 8 years have the best interest of America on their minds. I don’t know if the Dems have the best interest of America on their minds.

-I fear that each political party has only the interest of their own party on their minds, and not the American people. When political power is in of itself the means to an end, and not the American people, we are all screwed. Norman Gregory Fernandez, Esq., 2010-

How do you like the new quote I made up?

Norm

The AG lawsuits have no chance of winning, using Commerce Clause cases going back 100 years. Especially with a 2005 Supreme Court ruling by a 6-3 majority that gave the Federal Government the power to regulate medical marijuana “even when it is grown in your own home,” because it affects commerce.

Basically the AG’s lawsuits are frivolous. It is funny, they are from the same party which claims that we attorney’s file frivolous lawsuits all of the time. If a private attorney were to file a frivolous lawsuit like this, they would probably be sanctioned and disciplined. The AG’s are exempt from their actions here. These lawsuits are basically for political reasons only.

In the end, it will be the people that decide who gets elected and so forth. I try not to get too upset over politics, it will eat you alive and there is not a damm thing you can do about it. These kind of fights have been going on since the first Continental Congress, through the Civil War, and they will go on long after we are dead and buried.

PS; don’t make me start talking about the scumbag things that were done under Bush 🙂

Norm

Hell the President gets to live in a big white mansion for free, and gets to take free limo rides, helicopter rides, and plane rides too. ~~~~~~~~~

I just saw a TV program that said most members of congress from both parties are multi-millionaires. This fact makes it even more amazing that this bill was passed.

Who would want to be exempt from having health insurance? If you are exempt, who pays if you get sick and have to go the ER; WE DO, hell we are paying for the uninsured right now!

Norm

This is the one part of the bill that I think sucks. This is why I think that there should be a low cost public option. In the end, we will still be at the mercy of private for profit insurance companies. The low cost insurance pool is supposed to make the private insurance affordable, but I am skeptical.

Either way, the public tax payer is stuck paying the bill for the uninsured who run to ERs right now. The present system basically sucks right now. Especially for people who get cut off from their private insurance company when they get sick, or who cannot get insurance for various reasons.

At least someone took the bull by the balls and tried to help Americans here. This problem has been ignored for over 100 years.

I am curious; what are the real reasons some people do not support health reform. Why do some people think that this bill will not personally benefit them? Why is it better to let private health insurance companies make the life choices like they do now? Is it because a paticular political party tells us its better or is there some other reason.

Norm

To be frank, it is to be expected that someone would challenge this act. In the end we will see what happens.

Norm

Under the health reform that has been passed, everyone will be able to get health insurance if they want it.

Norm

The only way it could be found to be unconstitutional would be for the Supreme Court to throw away 230 years of precedent in the Madison case. The stuff you are hearing from State attorney general’s from certain States is a bunch of fluff and propoganda. They know full well this bill is constitutional under the Commerce Clause and they are just riled up members of a certain political party, trying to scare members of another political party not to pass health care reform. Its all politics.

The Health Care Reform bill has noting at all to do with socialized medicine. This too is a myth. Medicaid for the poor is being expanded, but the rest of us will be buying private insurance through our employers or puchasing pools. This is another myth being purpotrated by a certain policial party. Even with a public option, you would have the right to buy private insurance. With private insuance you have insurance hacks dooling out medical care decisions and rationing the same.

Ed with respect to your situation; what happens if you get sick and go to the ER? Who pays if you do not have insurance? I do not understand why someone who is in your boat, would not want to have medical coverage through Medicaid until you get back on your feet. This bill will help you my friend.

Guys I have to run. We can agree to disagree. But I can assure you of one thing; you will both be benefited by the bill, long before you will be harmed by it!

Norm

The new bill will not change anything except leveling the playing field with the super sized insurance companies, on this point I am sure.

This goes to my previous comment to you on this subject. The doctors are overpaid and charging too much for services. They are taking about 20% of our gross national product, and our nation can no longer afford to subsidize them. You see private insurance companies usually look at what Medicaid and Medicare are paying private doctors and adjust their rates to the same amount. The doctors never get what they bill, the whole system is messed up. The doctors are just going to have to take a pay cut or go into a different field. I am sure they will not go anywhere.

With respect to tort reform and attorneys fees in malpractice cases, I wrote an article about it; it is a fiction. We have had $250k caps here in California on Medical Malpractice cases since the 70’s. Texas enacted Medical Malpractice reform about 5 years ago. It did not affect health care costs in either State. Tort reform is a fiction. Hell here in California, our attorneys fees are limited by Statute in Medical Malpractice cases.

Open your eyes; one political party is looking out for big business and the rich, under the guise of less government. The only people who benefit with Tort reform is big business, and insurance companies. The guy who gets the wrong kidney taken out, or is accidentally maimed for life is the one who gets screwed.

We can debate until we are blue in the face; health care reform has passed. Just like Social Security and Medicaid, this bill will be constitutional under the commerce clause of the constitution unless the Supreme Court overrules every precedent since Madison.

Believe me when I say forget about politics. Do what you have to do to improve you and your families life. The democrats and republicans have been fighting since Jefferson and Adams got into it over the Constitution. The democrats and republicans got into it during the civil war and millions of Americans died. Political fighting has been very bad in our history. And this political fight will continue long after we are all dead and buried. All we should worry about now is doing what we can for each other and our families.

This is why I support health care reform!

Norm

Our nation is a strong nation. Don’t believe the propaganda you have been hearing. If we can send a man to the moon, win WWI and WWII, develop the nuclear bomb and the Internet, fund the IRAN/IRAQ war, we sure the hell can deal with insuring our people.

If what you hear comes to pass, I will admit I am wrong.

Norm

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