Norm

As for me I have no fear when I go into Court because I know the law, and I know my shit. I do have respect for judges because I know their power.

I have been doing this many years. When I was a new attorney and I went to Court, I was more nervous then fearful, because I wanted to do a good job. Maybe Gerry Spence had a different experience.

I see many pro per’s in Court getting the shit kicked out of them by attorney’s and judges. Trying as you might, it is difficult if not impossible for 99.9% of the people out there acting in pro per to competently represent themselves. It is hard enough for attorney’s!

Abraham Lincoln was right, every fool has himself for a client. I would never represent myself. It is analogous to performing a medical operation on yourself.

Anyway thanks for your post,

Norm

Norm

I’m glad I came across your blog because, with these gas prices, I am getting a bike!! I haven’t had one since I had a little 110 when I was a kid so god forbid but I might be giving you a ring soon…

bookmarked. Thanks.

As a new & used car salesman in an industry bankrupted by corrupt government, here’s my legal brief on “what is a lawyer”.

“Lawyer” is defined as anyone who studies the law. There’s several definitions of “attorney”. The two main ones are attorney-at-law (“licensed lawyer”) and attorney-in-fact (“pro se for a pro se”, as a former president of ATLA said).

Pro se means “without a lawyer”, which is how 99.9% of all trials are conducted in USA. Many lawyers are forced to represent themselves pro se, such as in divorce court when they can no longer afford to pay $150,000 lawyer fees. Some of the most historic cases were pro se, such as Gideon v Wainright that got “free” lawyers for criminal defendants, and William Penn’s case to stop judges jailing juries for contempt until they decided the “right” verdict.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_se

Anyone can be an attorney-in-fact for any person in any trial in any court, civil or criminal, regardless of lack of education, by signing a power of attorney contract, and this is done successfully 1,000s of times every day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_attorney

A “license to practice law” means nothing in any court. The REAL license to practice law is the power of attorney contract between an attorney-at-law and the client. Without that signed contract, it’s illegal for an attorney to represent a client in court.

A so-called “law license” is merely a court order signed by a judge (often printed on fancy paper suitable for advertising, er, framing), to allow an attorney to work in a single court jurisdiction, as a convenience to holding a separate hearing in each case to verify (1) the power of attorney contract was signed, (2) the attorney is not a lunatic, or (3) convicted felon (though convicted felons can become licensed lawyers).

In this case “person” is not defined as a corporation, since the govt contract to form a corporation bypasses the constitutions, and demands a govt-licensed attorney-at-law. But adhesion contracts are often ruled invalid as unconsionable.

75% of judges in USA are not licensed lawyers, never passed a bar exam, never graduated law school, and many cannot even read, according to NY Times. Supreme courts call these “de facto judges” and “de facto courts” (“de facto” means bogus or illegal), and in Tennessee they are denied the right to handle criminal cases, unless they’re “judicial commissioners” signing arrest warrants. Legislation is pending to remove the current 3 hour max legal education requirement for non-lawyer judges, and drop it to zero hours legal education for “judges” in TN.
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2009/01/75-of-judges-are-not-licensed-lawyers.html
http://www.tsc.state.tn.us/OPINIONS/TSC/PDF/953/BANKSTON.pdf
http://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/op/2007/OP/OP7.pdf
http://www.tsc.state.tn.us/OPINIONS/TCA/PDF/091/Mosesd.pdf
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jan/27/ruling-disbands-jellico-city-court

LAWYER.
A counselor; one learned in the law. Vide [see] attorney.
http://law-dictionary.org

attorney.
1. One who is designated to transact business for another; a legal agent. Also termed attorney-in-fact; private attorney. 2. A person who practices law.; LAWYER. Also termed attorney-at-law; public attorney. COUNSEL.
-Black’s Law Dictionary, 7th

power of attorney.
1. An instrument granting someone authority to act as an agent or attorney-in-fact for the grantor.
-Black’s Law Dictionary, 7th

(9)(a) “Any law student who has successfully completed one-half of the legal studies required for graduation in an approved law school in the State of Tennessee may, with the written approval of the Supreme Court of Tennessee, provide legal services to, and/or may appear in any municipal, county or state court on behalf of, any person or entity financially unable to afford counsel or on behalf of the state of Tennessee or of any municipal or county government.”
-RULES OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE. ARTICLE X. SPECIAL OR LIMITED PRACTICE, Sec. 10.03. Law Student Practice

“We researched all 50 States and all the federal circuits on Westlaw to find all reported cases in which nonlawyers were permitted to represent parties in law cases.”
-Barbara C. Johnson attorney at law, FalseAccusations.com, When Nonlawyers Represent Parties and the Representation Does Not Constitute the Unauthorized Practice of Law

“To be a Social Security representative, a person does not have to be a lawyer. Many companies which advertise as representatives not affiliated with lawyers and do not send lawyers to the hearing with their clients. Many lawfirms send their paralegals to the final evidentiary hearing on their social security claims. A lawyer does not attend the final hearing.”
-Kinsell, Zadel & Whitaker attorneys at law, How to choose a Social Security Disability Law Firm

“He who represents himself has a fool for a client.”
-President Abraham “Lincoln” Rothschild, unlicensed lawyer who never attended law school and never passed a bar exam, shot dead by his own secretary of war and his co-conspirators, after genociding 1-million US citizens in the Mother of All Wacos