Comments on: I hear a rumor that a lawyer is challenging the Denver Noise Ordinance.

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:17:34 +0000

I cannot argue with you on the hearing damage argument. I also have hearing damage and permanant ringing in my ears. This condition is known as Tinitis. Too many rides and too much rock & roll with no hearing protection.

If my ringing was at 85db I would go crazy. But both of my ears do ring all of the time. Thank god I have learned to ignore it.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:19:54 +0000

Cote I will publish this release as a seperate article shortly.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:55:00 +0000

Well Allen what about everyone else making a racket? Why do you want to single out bikers?

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:51:48 +0000

Well Jimbo I will tell you the same thing when you are running a lawn mower or leaf blower; case closed!

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:21:34 +0000

I agree with you 100% Jeff.

Thanks for the comment,

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:03:07 +0000

I do too.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:16:40 +0000

Thanks Mike, I will try to contact him. I might have some other arguments that he could use!

Norm

By: Mike Werner

Mike Werner — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

His name is Wade Eldridge, and he's a biker himself.

For me this fight has nothing to do with the noise (which is a totally different subject), but for discrimination towards motorcycles. The law only applies to motorcycles, and not cars, and anything to highlight this is good.

It's a 'grasping at straws' attempt, but a fair one.

By: Sandie[Member}

Sandie[Member} — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Good luck Norm. Maybe you can help the Colorado lawyer out with a few “good” suggestions. I sure hope that someone does something to get this “stupid” and discriminatory law set aside. If a law passes in one State….it seems likely it will pass in other States. I wonder if bikers are staying out of that State??

By: Mike Werner

Mike Werner — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Great. Give them hell! This is discrimination at its purest form.

By: Rod Sheridan

Rod Sheridan — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hi, as a long time rider (33 years), I am in favour of the police enforcing noise standards for motorcycles. I believe that noisy bikes annoy our neighbours, who will eventually persuade their legislators to pass laws that will remove our ability to ride, even if only on a local area.

As responsible riders, we have an obligation to inform other riders who are annoying our neighbours, that their actions are illegal and harmful to our collective rights.

The law in denver may be flawed, however hopefully it will be improved, and enforced.

Regards, Rod.

By: Sandie[Member}

Sandie[Member} — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Ros: I do not see how motorcycles, especially Harley’s can offend and make too much noise for anyone. A bike is usually moving and the sound passes with the bike. I find crotch rockets to be offensive as they make their bee buzzing sound…but it passes quickly and it is not like a constant sound outside my window. I hope the law in Denver is set aside as it is unconstitutional. The people we vote into office to represent us..the citizens…need to protect the bikers. As a long time rider, you should be for the rights of a biker.

By: Sandie[Member}

Sandie[Member} — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

To Rod Sheridan: I disagree with you strongly, I think the crotch rockets are louder than any Harley Davidson. I think their sound is much more offensive. I am pretty sure if the pipes were measured for sound the crotch rockets are louder.

By: Chris Hajer

Chris Hajer — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Looks like the case was dismissed on a technicality:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5665356,00.html

Had the officer inspected for the stamp, and not relied on his gut feeling that the bike was just too loud, I think the outcome would have been different.

By: Jeff Gale

Jeff Gale — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

As a 25 year member of ABATE in California, Indiana, Illinois and now Colorado I have been involved in many fights for motorcycle rights. And the new noise ordinance law in Denver was brought about because of our own negligence in self policing ourselves. How many times have you set off a car alarm, or wrapped the pipes to hear them echo of the buildings, or drove through the neighborhood to late at night, to fast and to loud. This is a very bias ordinance and should be, if not removed, at least negotiated to a reasonable solution. To begin with all of us bikers can start by policing ourselves. This is also how we ended up with an Under 18 helmet law in Colorado. One guy putting his 3 year old on the gas tank and riding by someones home who had the ear of a representative in the state. Fortunately this law comes up for review in December and hopefully we will stand a chance to get our side heard. For those interested the new noise ordinance also comes up for review in December. Wish all of the Motorcycle Right Organizations good luck in our fight for your rights. Better yet if you are not currently a member of an MRO now would be a real good time to join, the more members the bigger our voice.