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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the video link!&lt;br /&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the video link!</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tony-Tony-Tony,&lt;br /&gt;
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I strongly disagree with some of what you wrote and agree with some of what you wrote.&lt;br /&gt;
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I ride the Angeles Crest Highway. The speed limit in the area where this almost accident took place is 35 mph. As you can see in the video there is a sign showing an upcoming sharp turn and telling you the speed limit around the turn is 25mph!&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no way in hell I would ride any motorcycle on the twistie area of the Angeles crest at 62mph. There are straight areas where the speed limit goes up to 55, and where you might ride faster, however, no way would I be taking a turn like that at 62mph.&lt;br /&gt;
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You defied anyone, and I am telling you I am most guys I know don&#039;t race the twisties, especially if you are over 40.&lt;br /&gt;
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I handle the motorcycle accidents that happen when guys go down or are taken out. There is no way in hell I am going to promulgate not following the law. You as a lawyer can do as you will.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that everyone needs to learn how to ride, learn how to counter steer, etc. However, I do disagree with you about the demographics of motorcycle accidents. I get an equal number of cruiser and sport bike cases. On weekends it is mostly sport bike riders going down in the canyons due to excessive speed and racing, whereas the cruisers are taken out by cagers. Both types get equally taken out by cagers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Bottom line, rider education and safety is the key to riding safe as you say. However riding the Angeles crest at 62 mph as seen in this video is suicide no matter how good you are, and gives all of us bikers a bad name.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you have a need to race, take it to the track.&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm&lt;br /&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony-Tony-Tony,</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with some of what you wrote and agree with some of what you wrote.</p>
<p>I ride the Angeles Crest Highway. The speed limit in the area where this almost accident took place is 35 mph. As you can see in the video there is a sign showing an upcoming sharp turn and telling you the speed limit around the turn is 25mph!</p>
<p>There is no way in hell I would ride any motorcycle on the twistie area of the Angeles crest at 62mph. There are straight areas where the speed limit goes up to 55, and where you might ride faster, however, no way would I be taking a turn like that at 62mph.</p>
<p>You defied anyone, and I am telling you I am most guys I know don&#8217;t race the twisties, especially if you are over 40.</p>
<p>I handle the motorcycle accidents that happen when guys go down or are taken out. There is no way in hell I am going to promulgate not following the law. You as a lawyer can do as you will.</p>
<p>I agree that everyone needs to learn how to ride, learn how to counter steer, etc. However, I do disagree with you about the demographics of motorcycle accidents. I get an equal number of cruiser and sport bike cases. On weekends it is mostly sport bike riders going down in the canyons due to excessive speed and racing, whereas the cruisers are taken out by cagers. Both types get equally taken out by cagers.</p>
<p>Bottom line, rider education and safety is the key to riding safe as you say. However riding the Angeles crest at 62 mph as seen in this video is suicide no matter how good you are, and gives all of us bikers a bad name.</p>
<p>If you have a need to race, take it to the track.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
		<link>https://bikerlawblog.com/how-to-get-yourself-killed-speeding-on-a/#comment-892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Alan my position for comments on the Blog is that I do not censor any comments unless they are bash comments. You called me an idiot for stating that I thought the guy was racing is technically a bash, but I will let it go in this particular instance.&lt;br /&gt;
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I run the Angeles Crest all of the time. Sport Bike riders are always up their either racing or pushing it to the limits. They are basically giving all bikers a bad name. The guy in this video is an idiot, and so are you for defending this guy. He did not handle shit. He was a second away from dying. He just got lucky.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s assholes like this who are giving legislatures and law enforcement an excuse to crack down on all of us who ride within the law or close thereto.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with you that it is not the bikes fault. Yes, I can blame the guy for trying to make his bike perform on a public road with innocent potential victims in his way. There are plenty of private raceways and roads to test your skills.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway keep both wheels on the road!&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Alan my position for comments on the Blog is that I do not censor any comments unless they are bash comments. You called me an idiot for stating that I thought the guy was racing is technically a bash, but I will let it go in this particular instance.</p>
<p>I run the Angeles Crest all of the time. Sport Bike riders are always up their either racing or pushing it to the limits. They are basically giving all bikers a bad name. The guy in this video is an idiot, and so are you for defending this guy. He did not handle shit. He was a second away from dying. He just got lucky.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s assholes like this who are giving legislatures and law enforcement an excuse to crack down on all of us who ride within the law or close thereto.</p>
<p>I agree with you that it is not the bikes fault. Yes, I can blame the guy for trying to make his bike perform on a public road with innocent potential victims in his way. There are plenty of private raceways and roads to test your skills.</p>
<p>Anyway keep both wheels on the road!</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No Doubt. I actually have a video of a similar incident where the guy was in fact killed. Same scenario. He was racing through canyons, went across the yellow line and hit another innocent biker head on. Instant Death. I chose not to put that video on the blog because it was too graphic.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this video makes the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Doubt. I actually have a video of a similar incident where the guy was in fact killed. Same scenario. He was racing through canyons, went across the yellow line and hit another innocent biker head on. Instant Death. I chose not to put that video on the blog because it was too graphic.</p>
<p>I think this video makes the point.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 23:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed Brett, we are in this all together. Thanks for your comments.&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Brett, we are in this all together. Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hear you Cindy!&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your comments,&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Cindy!</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments,</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cindy I wrote an article about Lane Splitting. It is legal for motorcycles in California to lane split because bikers are more at risk from injured in bumper to bumper traffic, because their air cooled motorcycles can overheat in bumper to bumper traffic, and to decrease traffic overall.&lt;br /&gt;
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Bikers that lane split must do so in a safe manner. It takes lots of concentration. However and again, it is legal!&lt;br /&gt;
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Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy I wrote an article about Lane Splitting. It is legal for motorcycles in California to lane split because bikers are more at risk from injured in bumper to bumper traffic, because their air cooled motorcycles can overheat in bumper to bumper traffic, and to decrease traffic overall.</p>
<p>Bikers that lane split must do so in a safe manner. It takes lots of concentration. However and again, it is legal!</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gary I see it all of the time too. Unfortunately there is legislation that has been proposed to put speed limiters on motorcycles, or to regulate the maximum horsepower on motorcycles. I wrote an article about it. There are times when you do need to have the power and speed to get away from tailgators or other dangerous conditions.&lt;br /&gt;
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These speed racers will end up screwing it up for all bikers. They are already vastly increasing our insurance rates by their antics. We as bikers must put pressure on these guys to stop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary I see it all of the time too. Unfortunately there is legislation that has been proposed to put speed limiters on motorcycles, or to regulate the maximum horsepower on motorcycles. I wrote an article about it. There are times when you do need to have the power and speed to get away from tailgators or other dangerous conditions.</p>
<p>These speed racers will end up screwing it up for all bikers. They are already vastly increasing our insurance rates by their antics. We as bikers must put pressure on these guys to stop.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yup I know it is crazy. I see it all of the time. The guys that do this stuff are making it bad for all bikers. The guy in the video is lucky to be alive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup I know it is crazy. I see it all of the time. The guys that do this stuff are making it bad for all bikers. The guy in the video is lucky to be alive!</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow!  That&#039;s pretty nasty.  What about those other drivers?  What must they have been thinking?  I have many friends that ride, many friends that have been critically hurt.  And I&#039;ve been on highways where irresponsible bikers pass me on the left hand shoulder or speed on the yellow line between traffic lanes.  My brother and his friends are extremely responsible as are the majority but it&#039;s still extraordinary frightening.  You&#039;re right.  This guy/gal was lucky!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  That&#8217;s pretty nasty.  What about those other drivers?  What must they have been thinking?  I have many friends that ride, many friends that have been critically hurt.  And I&#8217;ve been on highways where irresponsible bikers pass me on the left hand shoulder or speed on the yellow line between traffic lanes.  My brother and his friends are extremely responsible as are the majority but it&#8217;s still extraordinary frightening.  You&#8217;re right.  This guy/gal was lucky!!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy Mansu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What in the hell is wrong with people, safety and common sense is an issue any time&lt;br /&gt;
your on the road but it should be greatly heightened when riding a motorcycle.&lt;br /&gt;
There is no room for stupidity on a motorcycle. In calfornia where motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
can ride between two cars, that scares me to death, We see it all the time and &lt;br /&gt;
know that it will turnly deadly one day.  There is no place that i need to get to&lt;br /&gt;
so badly that i would put my life on the line. Cruise and enjoy it, isnt that&lt;br /&gt;
what its all about]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What in the hell is wrong with people, safety and common sense is an issue any time<br />
your on the road but it should be greatly heightened when riding a motorcycle.<br />
There is no room for stupidity on a motorcycle. In calfornia where motorcycles<br />
can ride between two cars, that scares me to death, We see it all the time and <br />
know that it will turnly deadly one day.  There is no place that i need to get to<br />
so badly that i would put my life on the line. Cruise and enjoy it, isnt that<br />
what its all about</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;YIKES&quot;!!!! ]]></description>
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					<description><![CDATA[no problem. Figured u may have seen it.I&#039;ve seen it frequently recently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no problem. Figured u may have seen it.I&#8217;ve seen it frequently recently.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is bad, no doubt. Hopefully Darwin will weed this guy out without anyone else being involved. I just wanted to comment that you see a lot more sprint bikes doing stupid things on YouTube, but how many guys riding cruisers attach cameras to their bikes? I do not want people to think all sprint bikers are crazy. When you look at the actual stats, 60% of motorcycle deaths involve riders over 40. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am also a lawyer, over 40 and I race sprint bikes. I have never had so much as a bruise, despite multiple horrific crashes. I would really hate to see any limitation on horsepower or speed. I realize this would not affect most cruisers, but we are all in this together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is bad, no doubt. Hopefully Darwin will weed this guy out without anyone else being involved. I just wanted to comment that you see a lot more sprint bikes doing stupid things on YouTube, but how many guys riding cruisers attach cameras to their bikes? I do not want people to think all sprint bikers are crazy. When you look at the actual stats, 60% of motorcycle deaths involve riders over 40. </p>
<p>I am also a lawyer, over 40 and I race sprint bikes. I have never had so much as a bruise, despite multiple horrific crashes. I would really hate to see any limitation on horsepower or speed. I realize this would not affect most cruisers, but we are all in this together.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yikes! This cat needs a risk manager. ]]></description>
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