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		By: Sharron Clemons		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharron Clemons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is awful. I hope the driver of the Honda is located and put in jail. I am glad that witnesses stopped. We live in a society where folks do not want to be bothered. Prayers are with this club. One must wonder why the Honda driver was in such a hurry?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awful. I hope the driver of the Honda is located and put in jail. I am glad that witnesses stopped. We live in a society where folks do not want to be bothered. Prayers are with this club. One must wonder why the Honda driver was in such a hurry?</p>
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		By: Brenda		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brenda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7081&quot;&gt;Norman Gregory Fernandez&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok. Thank you. It&#039;s really sad to know that the hit and run drivers never are found. You&#039;d think that someone would turn a hit and run driver in if they know who it may be. How low can some people really get? It&#039;s such a shame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7081">Norman Gregory Fernandez</a>.</p>
<p>Ok. Thank you. It&#8217;s really sad to know that the hit and run drivers never are found. You&#8217;d think that someone would turn a hit and run driver in if they know who it may be. How low can some people really get? It&#8217;s such a shame.</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7074&quot;&gt;Brenda&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not sure of anything, but I did read in a newspaper report that the driver of the Avenger was released because his test came out negative. I am sure if you search Google, you will find it.

I am sure everything is being done to find the driver of the Honda. I cannot tell you how many of my clients get hit by hit and run drivers and we never find the hit and run driver. 

This whole thing is a tragedy.
Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7074">Brenda</a>.</p>
<p>I am not sure of anything, but I did read in a newspaper report that the driver of the Avenger was released because his test came out negative. I am sure if you search Google, you will find it.</p>
<p>I am sure everything is being done to find the driver of the Honda. I cannot tell you how many of my clients get hit by hit and run drivers and we never find the hit and run driver. </p>
<p>This whole thing is a tragedy.<br />
Norm</p>
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		By: Brenda		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brenda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7034&quot;&gt;Norman Gregory Fernandez&lt;/a&gt;.

He probably didn&#039;t go to the right because he knew he would be killed if he and the honda civic hit head on. Are you sure he wasn&#039;t drunk. I haven&#039;t read anything about that. Only that he was drunk. If he wasn&#039;t, then sorry for my bad mouth. But if he was drunk, then he should be punished. Have they found the guy in the honda civic yet? Maybe they should check DMV records for all honda civic&#039;s within a 100 within the boarder. I know that alot to look thru, but hey. Isn&#039;t that what a cops job is about also? Shit! Cops are all running scared these days. And a scared cop is a dangerous cop. Right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7034">Norman Gregory Fernandez</a>.</p>
<p>He probably didn&#8217;t go to the right because he knew he would be killed if he and the honda civic hit head on. Are you sure he wasn&#8217;t drunk. I haven&#8217;t read anything about that. Only that he was drunk. If he wasn&#8217;t, then sorry for my bad mouth. But if he was drunk, then he should be punished. Have they found the guy in the honda civic yet? Maybe they should check DMV records for all honda civic&#8217;s within a 100 within the boarder. I know that alot to look thru, but hey. Isn&#8217;t that what a cops job is about also? Shit! Cops are all running scared these days. And a scared cop is a dangerous cop. Right?</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7025&quot;&gt;Brenda&lt;/a&gt;.

Brenda it turns out the guy was not drunk. When they tested his blood at the hospital, he was alcohol free. Then again, why did the guy not just go to the right. I guess god only knows.

Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-7025">Brenda</a>.</p>
<p>Brenda it turns out the guy was not drunk. When they tested his blood at the hospital, he was alcohol free. Then again, why did the guy not just go to the right. I guess god only knows.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: Brenda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is all so wrong. That damn drunk driver is just as much guilty as the guy in the honda civic. If he hadn&#039;t been drinking, he would not have been traveling that road at the time the Saddle Tramps were. He more then likely would have already drove it to where ever he was going. Besides, he was DRUNK! He shouldn&#039;t have beed on the road! PERIOD!!! 
My GOD! Don&#039;t let this drunkin ass lick get away with this! It&#039;s not fair to the ones who lost their lives. The rest of the Saddle Tramp members need to realize this &#038; do something. Honor the Brothers &#038; Sisters who died. They don&#039;t even know what happened to them. They don&#039;t even know they are dead! But we do know. This is just too much. I can&#039;t believe the law is so ignorant to all this. The Fu_ker was DRUNK Dam_it! If he hadn&#039;t have been drunk, this would never have happened even though the guy in the honda civic was at fault. If the Pr*ck wasn&#039;t drunk, he wouldn&#039;t have been on that road at that time. But he was &#038; he was DRUNK! He is GUILTY!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all so wrong. That damn drunk driver is just as much guilty as the guy in the honda civic. If he hadn&#8217;t been drinking, he would not have been traveling that road at the time the Saddle Tramps were. He more then likely would have already drove it to where ever he was going. Besides, he was DRUNK! He shouldn&#8217;t have beed on the road! PERIOD!!!<br />
My GOD! Don&#8217;t let this drunkin ass lick get away with this! It&#8217;s not fair to the ones who lost their lives. The rest of the Saddle Tramp members need to realize this &amp; do something. Honor the Brothers &amp; Sisters who died. They don&#8217;t even know what happened to them. They don&#8217;t even know they are dead! But we do know. This is just too much. I can&#8217;t believe the law is so ignorant to all this. The Fu_ker was DRUNK Dam_it! If he hadn&#8217;t have been drunk, this would never have happened even though the guy in the honda civic was at fault. If the Pr*ck wasn&#8217;t drunk, he wouldn&#8217;t have been on that road at that time. But he was &amp; he was DRUNK! He is GUILTY!</p>
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		By: Tim Beck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Beck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[God bless the family and friends i will pray for all of you. Please if anyone has info on the Other car or you know who it is come forward and report it to the proper people. Out of the respect for the family&#039;s involved please turn yourself in.
Biker&#039;s unite and take care of the family&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless the family and friends i will pray for all of you. Please if anyone has info on the Other car or you know who it is come forward and report it to the proper people. Out of the respect for the family&#8217;s involved please turn yourself in.<br />
Biker&#8217;s unite and take care of the family&#8217;s.</p>
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		By: Sandie {Member}		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandie {Member}]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is awful.  I hope the driver of the Honda is located and put in jail.  I am glad that witnesses stopped.  We live in a society where folks do not want to be bothered.
Prayers are with this club.
One must wonder why the Honda driver was in such a hurry?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awful.  I hope the driver of the Honda is located and put in jail.  I am glad that witnesses stopped.  We live in a society where folks do not want to be bothered.<br />
Prayers are with this club.<br />
One must wonder why the Honda driver was in such a hurry?</p>
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		By: Bully		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bully]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Being a long time rider I am appalled at the level of carnage that took place because of stupidity on the part of drivers like the guy in the Gold Honda as well as the guy in the Avenger. Sure, we riders, try to stay in tight formation for many reasons. One being that old adage of &quot;safety in numbers&quot; but like you said, when it&#039;s a car vs bike, bikes lose...no matter how many of them are in the group. In fact, the group riding issue becomes more of the cause only because of the &quot;cue ball&quot; effect of being hit from any direction. I&#039;m sad for those brothers and sisters we just lost. I&#039;m pissed at the guy whose impatience caused this and I&#039;m sorry for the injured as well as the children of those who were taken from us much too soon. Someone has to pay! Why does it have to be the family? :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a long time rider I am appalled at the level of carnage that took place because of stupidity on the part of drivers like the guy in the Gold Honda as well as the guy in the Avenger. Sure, we riders, try to stay in tight formation for many reasons. One being that old adage of &#8220;safety in numbers&#8221; but like you said, when it&#8217;s a car vs bike, bikes lose&#8230;no matter how many of them are in the group. In fact, the group riding issue becomes more of the cause only because of the &#8220;cue ball&#8221; effect of being hit from any direction. I&#8217;m sad for those brothers and sisters we just lost. I&#8217;m pissed at the guy whose impatience caused this and I&#8217;m sorry for the injured as well as the children of those who were taken from us much too soon. Someone has to pay! Why does it have to be the family? 🙁</p>
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		By: Norman Gregory Fernandez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Gregory Fernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-6884&quot;&gt;bODYGUARD&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey BodyGuard, long time no talk to bro. I am glad to see you commenting on this tragic event. Give me a call sometime.

Norm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bikerlawblog.com/a-horrible-crash-in-ocotillo-wells-california-kills-5-including-4-members-of-the-saddle-tramps-motorcycle-club/#comment-6884">bODYGUARD</a>.</p>
<p>Hey BodyGuard, long time no talk to bro. I am glad to see you commenting on this tragic event. Give me a call sometime.</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		By: bODYGUARD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bODYGUARD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GOD BLESS THE BROTHERS THAT MADE THE PASSAGE TO THE OTHER SIDE. I PRAY ON A DAILY BASIS THAT ALL BROS HAVE A SAFE PASSAGE ON A DAILY BASIS. THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THESE CAGES, THEY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE ALWAYS ON THE **** PHONE TEXTING OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT. ANYWAY, NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL ON THIS DAY, CAGERS , PAY ATTENTION, TILL THEN RIDE EASY AND BE SAFE GOD BLESS AND GOD SPEED.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOD BLESS THE BROTHERS THAT MADE THE PASSAGE TO THE OTHER SIDE. I PRAY ON A DAILY BASIS THAT ALL BROS HAVE A SAFE PASSAGE ON A DAILY BASIS. THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THESE CAGES, THEY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE ALWAYS ON THE **** PHONE TEXTING OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT. ANYWAY, NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL ON THIS DAY, CAGERS , PAY ATTENTION, TILL THEN RIDE EASY AND BE SAFE GOD BLESS AND GOD SPEED.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan carr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My heart goes out to all members, families and friends of the Saddle Tramps for the loss of their loved ones involved in the senseless and trajic accident in Ocitillo.  I hope my prayers and the feelings from my soul finds them and helps with their next ride throughout the heavens.  

DC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to all members, families and friends of the Saddle Tramps for the loss of their loved ones involved in the senseless and trajic accident in Ocitillo.  I hope my prayers and the feelings from my soul finds them and helps with their next ride throughout the heavens.  </p>
<p>DC</p>
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