Comments on: 4 Phoenix Arizona Motorcycle riders mowed down and killed After Being Rear Ended in a Horrible Crash.

By: joe

joe — Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:32:17 +0000

This is just bs good people n riders lose there live because of some p.o.s that can’t watch what the hell he’s doing! fishing for papers? that’s why they have parking lots dumb azz, you killed people cause of your papers. i ride and that’s my worst fear is to be kill from behind like that. i hope you never get to drive again, lose everything and spend the rest of your sorry live in jail that’s where you belong dirtbag!!!!!!!!!!! joe

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:41:38 +0000

I hear you Bill. When I ride through Arizona it gets crazy sometime. Especially on the 40 between Kingman and Flagstaff. The speed limit is 70 or 75, but everyone is doing 100. You better have a motorcycle with more than 883ci on that road or you will get run over.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:49:05 +0000

A driver of a Semi Truck knows or should know that their truck can be a very dangerous weapon. That is why at least in California a Class 1 license is required to drive that type of truck. Special physical exams and eye tests are done on all truck drivers. Even 1 moving violation can result in the loss of a class 1 license. We entrust these types of trucks to the very best drivers because they are dangerous. My dad, and my grandpa were both big rig truck drivers.

That is what makes this accident so bad. I have have heard instances of big rigs losing their air brakes, or something like that, but to think that this idiot was shuffling papers does not makes sense to me. You see there were cars in front of a group of 8 bikes and a red light. This guy flat out must have been reading the papers for a good time not to see what was in front of him.

This is murder or manslaughter. I cannot believe that this guy was not arrested on the scene.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:22:46 +0000

I know what you mean Thad. I see some pretty horrendous pictures and injuries helping motorcycle accident victims. I could not imagine having to deal with this type of scene in person. Any normal human being would have flashbacks of something like this for the rest of their lives.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:16:39 +0000

I will try to keep track of this story, and I would like to hear from anyone who has any updates as well. If this guy was fishing for papers will driving a multi-ton trash truck then he should at least be charged with gross vehicular manslaughter or 2nd Degree Murder.

MCRIDER01 from Kingman has stated it best. While at a red light on a motorcycle, keep looking in your rear view mirror and plan an escape route. I will add that you should always keep your motorcycle in gear at a red light as well. Many pop the motorcycle into neutral to give their clutch hand a break, to grab a smoke, etc. On a motorcycle, don't do it. Hell, I even watch my mirror when in a car as well.

In this case, if the group was two abreast in a lane, or even staggered, the people in the pack or in the back did not have a chance. I am sure at least one of them saw this thing coming.

When you are in a group, you can still keep enough distance between you and the rider in front to have an escape route.

In the end, this was a horrible, disgusting nightmare which we can somehow learn from.

Norm

By: Norman Gregory Fernandez

Norman Gregory Fernandez — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:30:49 +0000

i know I am riding up for the Yuma prison run. This makes me sick to my stomach. I could have been any one of us. I deal with motorcycle accidents all of the time. This one is shocking.

Norm

By: sarah johnston

sarah johnston — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

i am in total shock and outradged by what i just watched on my tv , i ride to carefree twice a week with my husband on are harley the bikes i just seen i recognized we are geting ready for bike week here and this is really rediculous most of the riders around here are people who have high paying jobs and beautiful homes own there own businesses and i know for a fact there are kids tonight that has to be told there dad or mom or granddad is dead , this could have bin me! i want this moron to be made a example of !!!!!!!!! the poor people god bless them it was a beautiful day out my heart is broken

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

As a cdl driver/sportbiker
1 no brakes
2 talking on a cellphone
3 speeding/overweight
4 any combination of the above

By: Steve Taylor

Steve Taylor — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

As a life long biker and a long time resident of Arizona, before moving to florida,I am hart broken and outraged all at the same time. I have riden that rout and know the sites, sounds and the smell of the air of the desert. Most of us who ride love this and love being in the wind on a bike. That is why we do it! it adds quality to our lives. It sickens me to the core when careless idiots we are forced to share the road with take our lives, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers,friends and children from us while in pursuit of happiness. This guy should get the death penalty!!! I wish the worst for him.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

My prays go out to the family's of all those riders, I agree the truck drive should be harshly punished but we all know "Kill a biker get a slap on the hand"
The politicians are all so quick to regulate us tax us but God forbid that they do anything to avenge us.

By: Gary

Gary — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Absolutely disgusting and angering. Being a cyclist, we experience the same stuff. I’ve said from way back, one of the degrees of murder is appropriate to begin with. If I had my way, the driver if found guilty should suffer the same fate as those he killed, but, this is a PC world.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

DOT is always called for a fatality involving a CMV.Legally everytime we have an accident, take 30 days off,and are hired we have a drug test. Not to mention randoms. If it’s an over the road truck requiring a log book and you get in an accident and kill someone and you are running illegally on your hours of service it’s known it is prison time. My local paper said it was a garbage truck.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

One was an off duty Fire Capt.
One of the comments said cdl driver was an illegal. Here's an article driver was fishing for papers.

Dump Truck Driver In Massive Motorcycle Crash "Fishing For Papers" Before Accident
A dump truck driver admitted he was "fishing for papers" when his rig crashed through nine motorcycles this afternoon in Phoenix, killing several riders.

The accident took place near 27th and Carefree Highway in Phoenix. Multiple sources have confirmed earlier reports of a major accident involving multiple bikes in the area. According to the employees of a Walgreens located near the site of the accident, the truck driver plowed through at least nine motorcycle riders who were parked at the intersection waiting for the light. The truck then caught on fire with motorcycles trapped underneath it.

According to one Walgreens employee, the truck driver admitted to bystanders that he was "fishing for papers" when the accident occured. Lifeflight was sent to the scene and the casualty count is unclear, but at least three people and possibly five are dead with many others injured. Another car was said to be involved. [ABC 15]

By: Slater

Slater — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

This guy needs to be arrested,the company put out of business and a long
prison term.Lets wake up the general
public.Slaughter on MC riders must cease

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

ALLEGEDLY, the driver admitted to a witness that he wasn’t paying attention and was looking at paperwork. Don’t know how true that is but it sure seems that way…